AGP costs more than PCI-E? LOL

I was at Circuit City today, and I was looking at GPUs just to waste time,(i'm getting a new rig with a 8800GTX :P )....I was looking at a 7600GS for $109.99 and wondering how much it would improve my old PC...and then i realized I was looking at the PCI-E version... my old PC has AGP...So i looked for the AGP versionwhich was a couple boxes down... and....$129.99!?!?!?!?!?! wtf.... If the PCI-E is better and newer, why the pricing?AGP costs more than PCI-E? LOL
PCI-e is the new standard. In order for card-makers to release AGP cards, they have to change the interface, and release it to a smaller market (yes, I do realize that there are still a ton of people out there with AGP-only boards - these people are not generally the types to change their graphics cards, especially not to a high-end card).Think about it like DDR RAM versus DDR2 RAM. DDR2 is faster, but it's cheaper. Why? Because it's the new standard.AGP costs more than PCI-E? LOL
This is the reason i had gotten out of PC gaming...Until i had two 360s blow out....6 red lights of Doom = back to PC gaming...
Simple economics... supply and demand.
Now Company make what is new newer. So they make less of the old and make more of the new. Thats the main reason why
[QUOTE=''GANGSTA287'']This is the reason i had gotten out of PC gaming...Until i had two 360s blow out....6 red lights of Doom = back to PC gaming...[/QUOTE]



*sigh* are you one of those people that put there 360s in confined spaces and it overheats... cause ive had mine since launch with no probs. I actually dust it and keep it in an area where it can breath.
[QUOTE=''LouieV13''][QUOTE=''GANGSTA287''] This is the reason i had gotten out of PC gaming...Until i had two 360s blow out....6 red lights of Doom = back to PC gaming...[/QUOTE] *sigh* are you one of those people that put there 360s in confined spaces and it overheats... cause ive had mine since launch with no probs. I actually dust it and keep it in an area where it can breath.[/QUOTE]I'm not a complete noob, i had both sitting on a wooden table in the middle of a room!!!!The 2nd one is less than a month old (an Elite at that) it i put a frickin cooling system on it too!!!!
[QUOTE=''GANGSTA287''][QUOTE=''LouieV13''][QUOTE=''GANGSTA287''] This is the reason i had gotten out of PC gaming...Until i had two 360s blow out....6 red lights of Doom = back to PC gaming...[/QUOTE] *sigh* are you one of those people that put there 360s in confined spaces and it overheats... cause ive had mine since launch with no probs. I actually dust it and keep it in an area where it can breath.[/QUOTE]I'm not a complete noob, i had both sitting on a wooden table in the middle of a room!!!!The 2nd one is less than a month old (an Elite at that) it i put a frickin cooling system on it too!!!![/QUOTE]Did you install a water cooling system? If so you did it wrong :)
[QUOTE=''MondoCool''][QUOTE=''GANGSTA287''][QUOTE=''LouieV13''][QUOTE=''GANGSTA287''] This is the reason i had gotten out of PC gaming...Until i had two 360s blow out....6 red lights of Doom = back to PC gaming...[/QUOTE] *sigh* are you one of those people that put there 360s in confined spaces and it overheats... cause ive had mine since launch with no probs. I actually dust it and keep it in an area where it can breath.[/QUOTE]I'm not a complete noob, i had both sitting on a wooden table in the middle of a room!!!!The 2nd one is less than a month old (an Elite at that) it i put a frickin cooling system on it too!!!![/QUOTE]Did you install a water cooling system? If so you did it wrong :)[/QUOTE]



I dont think you can watercool a 360 tho I would love to OC mine so I can run saints row a little better :| ShadowRun runs like a charm on the 360 as well. This is the first time I will get a console game that is on the PC as well because its so horribly optimised :\
The reason that AGP cards are more expensive is because they use a bridge chip - and the bridge chip requires cooling as well.
[QUOTE=''LouieV13''][QUOTE=''GANGSTA287'']This is the reason i had gotten out of PC gaming...Until i had two 360s blow out....6 red lights of Doom = back to PC gaming...[/QUOTE]



*sigh* are you one of those people that put there 360s in confined spaces and it overheats... cause ive had mine since launch with no probs. I actually dust it and keep it in an area where it can breath.[/QUOTE]



I am still part lemming and so I guess when I say I am on my 4th 360 then you can beleave me. ow and I take care of my 360 like a god (dust it, clean it, keep off carpet, keep on 2 pieces of breow (wooden train track things) to keep it ventilated). so the 360 over heating problem is a real problem with the 360 and not some stupid made up myth. What has kept me guessing though is why Microsoft just didnt add anouther fan.
I honestly think they just keep it priced higher because it's older -> because they can. Supply and demand is a good summary. Just look at DDR2 prices vs. DDR1 prices, Socket 939 Athlon64 X2's vs. Socket AM2... in all cases, the older parts are more expensive.
[QUOTE=''Cyborg-21'']The reason that AGP cards are more expensive is because they use a bridge chip - and the bridge chip requires cooling as well.[/QUOTE]Bridge devices aren't required by AGP videa cards. They were used by nVidia to make ''PCX'' versions from the several ''FXes'' that they converted, and possibly on either the X550 or X600 from ATI to convert the Radeon 9600s, but not on the X300 (was ported from the 9600 SE). The Radeon 9550 doesn't even have a bridge chip (that one is the ''reverse port'' to AGP when the new dies for the VPUs didn't fit the old 9600 SE setup, and it was cheaper to use a modified X300 setup).
[QUOTE=''GANGSTA287'']This is the reason i had gotten out of PC gaming...Until i had two 360s blow out....6 red lights of Doom = back to PC gaming...[/QUOTE]Same! Except only 1 360 for me
[QUOTE=''RayvinAzn''] PCI-e is the new standard. In order for card-makers to release AGP cards, they have to change the interface, and release it to a smaller market (yes, I do realize that there are still a ton of people out there with AGP-only boards - these people are not generally the types to change their graphics cards, especially not to a high-end card).Think about it like DDR RAM versus DDR2 RAM. DDR2 is faster, but it's cheaper. Why? Because it's the new standard.[/QUOTE] agreed. too bad that DDR3 is probably gonna drive up the price of DDR2. well, at least I've already got 2GBs:)
[QUOTE=''353535355353535''][QUOTE=''RayvinAzn''] PCI-e is the new standard. In order for card-makers to release AGP cards, they have to change the interface, and release it to a smaller market (yes, I do realize that there are still a ton of people out there with AGP-only boards - these people are not generally the types to change their graphics cards, especially not to a high-end card).Think about it like DDR RAM versus DDR2 RAM. DDR2 is faster, but it's cheaper. Why? Because it's the new standard.[/QUOTE] agreed. too bad that DDR3 is probably gonna drive up the price of DDR2. well, at least I've already got 2GBs:)[/QUOTE]I dont think it will become the standard for a while yet...
[QUOTE=''skinnypete91''][QUOTE=''353535355353535''][QUOTE=''RayvinAzn''] PCI-e is the new standard. In order for card-makers to release AGP cards, they have to change the interface, and release it to a smaller market (yes, I do realize that there are still a ton of people out there with AGP-only boards - these people are not generally the types to change their graphics cards, especially not to a high-end card).Think about it like DDR RAM versus DDR2 RAM. DDR2 is faster, but it's cheaper. Why? Because it's the new standard.[/QUOTE] agreed. too bad that DDR3 is probably gonna drive up the price of DDR2. well, at least I've already got 2GBs:)[/QUOTE]I dont think it will become the standard for a while yet...[/QUOTE] IDK, we've already got DDR4 on video cards
GDDR4 if we are precisely